I am considering buying an Allis Chalmers forklift, $4,200. Discription: 1988, triple stage mast, side shifter, automatic transmission, power steering, air tires, 4000 lbs. I know close to nothing about forklifts but have it in my head I need one. It would be used in my home shop to move equipment around the shop, dismantle equipment by lifting heavy parts off, and to load and unload equipment I might by or sell. I am slowly finishing a shop in the back yard and will be moving machines from the garage to the shop. From what I can tell, Allis Chalmers is out of business but the seller assures me the forklift “has a real simple Nissan 4 cylinder engine, (and) parts are readily available'. Any wisdom to share about this machine, the price, or if it sounds like it is what I am looking for?
It seems like numerous forklifts are on the market at any one time so I don't feel pressure to buy this one. But most seem to have solid tires which I have been told I don't want for outside use or for on dirt.
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The driveway to the shop is dirt. This forklift has larger air tires. Thank you, Bruce. I'm running two old Allis Chalmers, one diesel from the Sixties, and the other LP gas from the late Seventies.
Parts for things like brakes and transmissions could get a bit tough and pricey, but guess what, so are practically all the other brands. Since I'm a machinist, I've made many parts for them both (a great benefit to having metalworking skill) Overall, they're lots simpler to work on than many later model machines. 4200 isn't really high, but not low either. It being pneumatic tired helps its value, as there are plenty of people who need to venture off a hard surface. That will help you when you resell it.
Yes, you do need a forklift. That is an absolute given.
I used a little air tire A-C at a consignment sale a few years ago. Used it before and after the sale, and I liked it, but when it sold I was outbid.(The rule at this particular annual event is basically 'Your consigned/newly purchased forklift is fair game till the sale is over and everybody has their stuff loaded.' .Total anarchy. Guys in a hurry to get loaded see you running a forklift and they wave cash as you tear ass around loading your new junk before somebody bigger and meaner throws you off the machine.
Absolute most profitable business model possible. No capital investment, no repair bills, no fuel to buy.) Anyway, This particular forklift was probably closer to a 78' model and it went for about $2500.
I have a pair of pretty good books on A-C. One covers their Ag line, while the other is on the Construction and Industrial line. These basically say that A-C has been through phases of 'out of business/merged /taken over since the mid 80's. The Ag line has morphed through incarnations of Deutz-Allis, Agco-Allis, Agco, etc. Parts of the Industrial line were merged with Fiat as early as 1974. This was Fiat-Allis, later Fiatallis, and now who knows?
Agco is currently supporting A-C Ag parts to some extent. I'm not sure who you talk to about a supposed 88' model A-C forklift.
Probably a perfectly good forklift, but I'd stress the orphan aspect and try to beat the price down. It might be a good FL for the price but for home shop I think the price is high. You do need air tires for off smooth concrete. If you have descent mechanical skills you might look for a beater for $1500.
I bought a nice Yale for $2000. When I built my shop that needed the top of the mast repaired. I repaired the mast, built the shop, kept it for 6 months and sold it for $4000.
I have an old 60's-70's Clark that I bought from a junk yard for $200. I spent another $200. On it and it is temperamental but I use it all the time. Forklifts have a lot of generic and common parts if you have the patience to track them down. You will save a lot of money searching. Engines like Continental you can get parts at NAPA.
Just look a candidate over very well, I looked at a couple Toyota's and both had problems with aluminum heads self destructing from corrosion and I was told there wasn't generic replacements. IMO, the price is high but don't know just how many air tire trucks are available in your area? I would put it thru its paces and thoroughly test it out as to engine and tranny performance. Some AC parts are generic but drive axle and rear parts are pretty much captive and usually what wears out in yours is already worn out in one from a forklift scrappy, unless you get lucky.In today's market none of the major suppliers carry parts back too far, so it comes down to condition and how much you are going to use the unit?
Dan from Oakland is right: 'Kalmar AC' is the company carrying on the forklift division of Allis-Chalmers. Their website is at and their phone number is 800-311-8452.
They're well organized! They've got actual tech support for their dealers (not individuals, unfortunately) and can point you towards the dealer nearest to you. In 2003 I gave them the serial number of an engine in an A/C forklift, and they could create new manuals from their records and send them out.
At the time, the quote was: Service Technical Manual $175 Parts Manual $125 Operating Manual $40 Just FYI, Allis put many 'G153' 4-cylinder gas engines into their lift trucks in the 1960's and 70's. Give Kalmar AC the serial number from the engine plate (not the console plate on the dashboard, that's the truck's serial number, not the engine's) and they can tell you in a heartbeat what you've got in there. Hope this helps. The $4200 price tag is not unreasonable if the machine has been maintained fairly well. It has three features that are price boosters: 1) Pneumatic tires (a necessity for your dirt road you mentioned.
This machine weighs around 8500 lbs with empty forks - getting it out of soft dirt or mud is one of life's less pleasant tasks.) 2) Side-shifter (nice, but not as vital for your usage as for a warehouse situation) 3) Propane (fuel of choice for safety and convenience) My opinion: if it has been maintained, this 1988 truck would be a steal at $3,000 to $3,500, and you are not far above that. Tell the seller you want $200 shaved to lose the 'sea-foam aqua' paint job.
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